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Is Astrology Scientific? (Dr.A.S.Kalra Astrologer)Astrology can be broadly divided into two parts: - Calculation part & Predictive part. Calculation Part of Indian Vedic Astrology is absolutely Science as it is based upon Astronomical Calculations & before discussing whether Predictive Part of Indian Vedic Astrology is Science let us discuss first whether Medicine is Science or not. The founder of Vedic Astrology Parashara, who was one of the first astrologers to actually cast natal charts for individuals that reflected health, disease, and longevity issues, lived around 1500 BC. It is fascinating that the science this great sage fathered is still in action in the twenty-first century. No, its random pseudo science invented by modern astrologers just like including Pluto and Uranus. Real astrological planets maps to Vastu of every piece of land i.e. Each of the 8 planets control 8 directions(9th Ketu is center) like Sun for east, Jupiter for north-east, Saturn for west, Venus for south-east etc., and discussed by ancient sages in books like Vishwakarma Prakash.

About a third of Americans believe astrology is 'very' or 'sort of scientific.' But does being a Pisces, Virgo rising really matter in the eyes of science?

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  • Astrology lacks a mechanism by which it could work—how is the position of the stars at your birth supposed to affect your personality and fate?
  • The earth's motion has pushed our astrological signs off by a whole month.
  • Studies have shown astrological readings are unable to predict outcomes any better than pure chance.

Is astrology real? Reading horoscopes is a popular diversion, but is there any science to suggest it means anything?

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As many as 70 million Americans read their horoscopes daily. Well, that’s at least according to the American Federation of Astrologers. According to a study done twenty years ago by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, 25 percent of Americans believed that the positions of the stars and the planets affect our daily lives. In 2012, the General Social Survey found that 34 percent of Americans surveyed consider astrology to be 'very' or 'sort of scientific' and also reported a decrease—from two-thirds to around one-half—in the fraction of people who consider astrology 'not at all scientific.'

Astrology is generally defined as the belief that astronomical phenomena, like the stars overhead when you were born or the fact that Mercury is in retrograde, have the power to influence the daily events in our lives and our personality traits. This is, of course, very different from the study of astronomy, which is the scientific study of celestial objects, space, and the physics of the universe.

Astrology is very different from the study of astronomy, which is the scientific study of celestial objects, space, and the physics of the universe.

A specific aspect of astrology—the forecasting of a person’s future or the offering of advice on daily activities via horoscopes—is particularly growing in popularity. Magazines like The Cut reported an increase of 150 percent more hits on horoscope pages in 2017 than in 2016.

Clearly, lots of people are looking for ways to interpret the stars for advice. Astrology is founded on understanding the positions of the stars, which seems like a scientific enough pursuit in itself. But is there any science to back up whether astrology impacts our personality and our lives?

Here's the short Answer: No. None whatsoever.

But since I have you for five more minutes of this six-minute-or-so podcast to fill, let’s look at exactly how astrology has been tested.

What does your astrological sign mean?

We sit on a rock—made of nickel, iron, silicon, oxygen, and other minerals—that orbits our star at 67,000 miles per hour. From our perspective, it appears the backdrop provided by the sky moves overhead. The sun rises and sets. The constellations appear overhead four minutes earlier each night. But of course, we are the ones moving. The Earth rotates about its axis bringing the sun into and then out of view.

The Earth also moves through our solar system, making one full lap around the sun every 365 days. As we make this lap, we're pointed at different directions in the sky and thus see different stars overhead. (Unless, of course, you are near one of the poles, and then you don’t get as much variety as far as constellations go.) The twelve “signs” given in a horoscope map out the zodiac: the twelve constellations we pass by on our year-long trip. So when you say you’re an Aries, that means you were born late March to mid-April, and the Sun was toward the constellation Aries.

Since the time when astronomers and astrologers alike started laying out the the zodiac on the sky some 2,000 years ago, our position relative to those constellations has drifted off by about 30 degrees or one whole month.

Except that’s not quite right. You see, the Earth also has an additional form of motion, called precession, which is a fancy word for wobble. The Earth wobbles about its axis a little as it spins. You can think of a top that is starting to slow down after you’ve set it to spin. This motion is slight—tracing out one loop of this wobble takes 26,000 years—but it adds up.

Since the time when astronomers and astrologers alike started laying out the the zodiac on the sky some 2,000 years ago, our position relative to those constellations has drifted off by about 30 degrees or one whole month. This means that you may think you’re an Aries, but if horoscopes were connected to their present day constellations, you’d actually be more like a Pisces.

Is astrology scientific?

In 1985, physicist Shawn Carlson conducted a double-blind test of the idea that astrological charts could accurately describe our personality traits and published his results in the journal Nature.

Carlson asked 30 American and European astrologers, ranked by their peers as among the best, to review the astrological charts for 116 people without meeting them in person. He then provided three personality descriptions for each of the 116 people. One description was the one that actually described the subject. The other two were real personality descriptions .. but they described other people. Carlson asked the astrologers to match the right personality with the person's astrological chart.

Overall, the astrologers matched one in three charts correctly, so their results were no better than they would be based on random chance.

The result? The astrologers were only able to make the correct match one-third of the time. In other words, given three personality descriptions for a subject, you'd have a one in three chance of picking the right one. Overall, the astrologers matched one in three charts correctly, so their results were no better than they would be based on random chance.

Carlson concluded that astrologers likely work off of the body language and reactions of their clients during in-person meetings to improve their odds at correctly guessing relevant details about their lives. That art is known as cold reading.

Is astrology harmless fun?

Many people report reading their horoscopes just for entertainment. The most generous interpretation is that this form of astrology is just harmless fun.

However more critical interpretations, like that of sociologist Theodor Adorno in the 1950s, claim that belief in astrology leads more easily to a belief in authoritarian values and a more easily controlled populace. If your future is already decided, then why bother trying to address your own failures or to strive for something better?

Here's the bottom line. Astrology fails to predict life event outcomes any better than chance. It also fails to provide a mechanism by which it could work. What exactly is the connection between the stars overhead when you were born and whether or not you should make big decisions in the summer? My searches for any such explanations came up empty.

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I’ve never really been into astrology, possibly because all my life I thought I was a Scorpio and I never really identified with the characteristics of Scorpio other then the sexuality part they are notorious for, but I mean who isn’t sexual? Anyway, a friend of mine referred me to Dayna, a Vedic Astrologer. One of the first things that she mentioned was that I was actually a Libra. What?! Ok. Turns out that Western Astrology is a bit off on their Sun Sign dates. Western Astrology has been using the same start date on the Spring Equinox with Aries on March 21st since Rome fell and are now off 24 days.

In Vedic Astrology the Sun Sign dates start one day later every 72 years because of the earth’s wobbling thru the procession of the polar axis. I’m not really sure what that means, but I think it makes a lot of sense that the position of planets are shifting all the time and are not stagnant.

Astronomically Accurate & Real Sun Sign Dates:

  1. Aries : April 15 – May 14
  2. Taurus : May 15 – June 14
  3. Gemini : June 15 – July 14
  4. Cancer : July 15 – August 16
  5. Leo : August 16 – September 15
  6. Virgo : September 16 – October 16
  7. Libra : October 17 – November 14
  8. Scorpio : November 15 – December 15
  9. Sagittarius : December 16 – January 13
  10. Capricorn : January 14 – February 13
  11. Aquarius : February 14 – March 14
  12. Pisces : March 15 – April 15

Furthermore, what I learned is that your Sun Sign is only the 3rd most important sign and are the traits that you get from your Dad. Your Moon Sign is 2nd most important as it’s more active and is what you get from your Mom. Your Rising or Turning Sign is your most active sign and most important for you. To find your signs you need to know the time you were born and where you were born as everything is measured by your first breath. When you clock into this human world there is a particular vibration and energy field happening and that’s what everything is based on.

Vedic Astrology, also referred to as Hindu, Eastern, or Joytish (inner light) Astrology has the only and most ancient text written on Astrology. When we think of Western Astrology we think of the Greeks and Romans, but the Greeks got their info from India. Western Astrology and American history for that matter typically begins with the Greeks and Romans and they miss thousands of years of interaction. When Rome fell a lot of knowledge was lost and it was the East that kept the knowledge together as they were a continuous civilization. They were sky observers and got their knowledge through inner light as they were enlightened people. I feel like Vedic Astrology is astronomically scientific, not just made up, but you can take it or leave it.

My Reading

I was pretty amazed by the reading and without going into too many details here are some things that I found out. My Sun Sign is Libra, my Moon Sign is Gemini, and my Rising Sign is Taurus. Currently I’m nearing the end of Jupiter, which is a 16 year period and has an overall “happy go lucky” mood. In general you become wiser and more spiritual in Jupiter as you begin to ask the bigger questions in life. More specifically I’m in Jupiter-Rahu which has me in a limbo position. I don’t feel like being social and my career is very unclear right now. Ketu is currently transiting my House of Career and my House of the Public, which for me means that my work and my social life is basically non-exsistent, but change is coming. Soon I will be entering into Saturn, which is more adult and more hard-working, but also fulfilling and rewarding. It’s a 19 year period and has a lot to do with your karma and dharma (your purpose in life). I’m a bit nervous about that, but my career will become clear and stable and it’s a very maturing time, but I’ll always be fun and youthful because of my Gemini Moon Sign. She said that right now I couldn’t force a career if I tried and to enjoy my downtime. Also, she said that more celebrities have Libra as their sun sign and that I would make a great actor or influencer. She said that blogging is a great path for me and that I would be great at informing people about quality things. There’s a ton more, but I won’t get into it all. I actually had 2 calls with her because I was heading to the airport and we had to cut it short. She is really knowledgable and I highly recommend doing a reading with her. It’s true that there are Astrologers with decades of family experience that may be more insightful, but Dayna is really amazing and has allowed me to share her information on my blog. She has really lead a spiritual path and I trust in her.

Your first reading will be about 1.5 hours long and is only $90! It’s so worth it (please know her rates may change). She will send you some recordings, reading material, and your chart prior to your call. I highly recommend that you listen to the recordings before your call so you can go into your call with all the questions you want to ask (I was not so prepared on my first call). You can ask her anything! Also, you get a recording of your conversation and listening back to it is really, really helpful.

Here is her contact info, email her to set something up.

Dayna Norris, Spiritual Counselor, Vedic Astrologer, & Relationship Coach: [email protected]

I’m very intrigued by Vedic Astrology and can’t wait to learn more. I also plan to go to India soon as that’s where basically all my spiritual practices are derived from. You can leave questions and comments below and although I may not be able to answer them I believe Dayna will be following along and can perhaps give us her insight.

Below is info via Dayna Norris that explains the Dasha System, which is based on the ideal life span of 120 years. You can be born at any time during a Dasha.

VEDIC ASTROLOGY DASHA SYSTEM

*DASHA: 120 years with each planet as PRESIDENT

*ANTARDAHSA: Each planet rotates VICE- PRESIDENCY within a PRESIDENCY

*PRYANTARDASHA: Each planet rotates as ASSISTANT to VICE-PRESIDENT

DASHA (PRESIDENTIAL) terms in order:

SUN 6 years

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MOON 10 years

MARS 7 years

RAHU 18 years

JUPITER 16 years

SATURN 19 years

MERCURY 17 years

KETU 7 years

VENUS 20 years

An Example of ANTARDARSHAS (Vice Presidents):

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In 6 years of SUN:

SUN is Vice President: 3 months, 18 days

MOON is Vice President: 6 months

MARS is Vice President: 4 months, 6 days

RAHU is Vice President: 10 months, 24 days

JUPITER is Vice President: 9 months, 18 days

SATURN is Vice President: 11 months, 12 days

MERCURY is Vice President: 10 months, 6 days

KETU is Vice President: 4 months, 6 days

VENUS is Vice President: 1 year

An Example of PRYANTARDASHAS (Assistant to Vice President):

In 3 months, 18 days of SUN Vice President in Sun Presidency:

SUN is Assistant: 6 days

MOON is Assistant: 9 days

MARS is Assistant: 7 days

RAHU is Assistant: 16 days

JUPITER is Assistant: 15 days

SATURN is Assistant: 17 days

MERCURY is Assistant: 16 days

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KETU is Assistant: 7 days

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VENUS is Assistant: 18 days

Photo was taken at my house during the Supermoon by my girl CC using my camera.